夢魘是相信恐嚇人們是刺激他們發奮的最好辦法，或是環境越殘酷，就會有越多人接受挑戰。你必須想，你的理想父親是怎樣的？你的理想父親往往是嚴厲又溫和的，雖然這界限很難畫定，我們社會需要的模范性人物是像一個理想父親，不要走極端，不要完全集權、純粹紀律，也不要模糊馬虎，亂無規章。
The nightmare thought is that frightening people is the best way to get work out of them, and that somehow the crueler the environment, the more people will rise to the challenge. You want to think, who would you like as your ideal dad? And your ideal dad is somebody who is tough but gentle. And it's a very hard line to make. We need fathers, as it were, the exemplary father figures in society, avoiding the two extremes, which is the authoritarian disciplinarian on the one hand, and on the other, the lax, no-rules option.
